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post 5 Oct 2006, 17:21
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de luni incepem sa lucram si la proiect clio asa ca tineti-ne pumnii !!!


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galileo & romeo3108ro trebuie sa mearga si pe Clio.Sotioara mea are si e super cu el.
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post 6 Oct 2006, 20:03
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clio este in teste saptamana viitoare stati linistiti


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am cautat si eu prin maruntaiele masinii si ce sa vezi?Am gasit acea mufa alba care cica e de la cruise control.Daca vreti fac o poza si o postez.M-as bucura daca se poate activa acest cruise control fara prea multa bataie de cap. biggrin.gif


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post 9 Oct 2006, 16:31
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Domnilor, cat costa? Pentru Megane 2.1 1.6 16v si Modus 1.5dci 80 cp (se echipeaza si asta cu tempomat din fabrica).


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post 10 Oct 2006, 07:06
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QUOTE(Saint @ 9 Oct 2006, 17:15)
am cautat si eu prin maruntaiele masinii si ce sa vezi?Am gasit acea mufa alba care cica e de la cruise control.Daca vreti fac o poza si o postez.M-as bucura daca se poate activa acest cruise control fara prea multa bataie de cap. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Saint @ 9 Oct 2006, 18:15)
am cautat si eu prin maruntaiele masinii si ce sa vezi?Am gasit acea mufa alba care cica e de la cruise control.Daca vreti fac o poza si o postez.M-as bucura daca se poate activa acest cruise control fara prea multa bataie de cap. biggrin.gif
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Salut,
Unde ai gasit mufa respectiva?
Tu la modelul tau ai in bord bec (martor) pentru cruise control?
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post 12 Oct 2006, 12:28
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@Liviu sau cine stie: Doar doua fire se folosesc pentru acest lucru (4 contacte)? Unde se gasesc firele care le-ai legat la butoanele de la satelitul de comanda, in volan? Trebuie scos capacul de la volan?
Va rog sa-mi zicei aceste lucruri pt ca m-as incumeta si eu sa-mi activez aceste functii deoarece am acea mufa. Apropo masina e din martie 2005 si e Estate dar are fct. ESP.


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QUOTE(Cuvy @ 10 Oct 2006, 09:46)
Salut,
Unde ai gasit mufa respectiva?
Tu la modelul tau ai in bord bec (martor) pentru cruise control?
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post 12 Oct 2006, 17:55
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Sub volan, in partea stanga, este o mufa cu 7 pini. Mufa este accesibila daca se desface scoica volanului, partea dinspre bord, jumatatea inferioara.

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post 13 Oct 2006, 12:44
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@ Liviu: 1)Rezistentele le-ai pus in satelitul e comanda?
2)Ai o poza si cu interiorul lui?
3) Ca sa desfaci scoica volanului e nevoie de a da jos si capacul lui si desprins mufele de la airbag?


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post 13 Oct 2006, 22:11
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1: da
2: nu , dar iti poti folosi imaginatia .. fiecare le pune cum crede ca e mai bine.
3: asa este, trebuie sa scoti mufa care comanda si airbagul din volan (caci aceeasi mufa contine si firele de comanda de cruise). Nu iti fa nici un fel de grija, daca nu ai contactul pus, nu se inregistreaza nici o eroare in computer.


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post 13 Oct 2006, 22:46
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Mersi de raspuns Liviu. Am inceput si eu sa pun in aplicare toate acestea, am facut deja comanda pt comutatorul de pe bord, intr-adevar e vreo 23Euro, dar mai am cateva probleme:
1) am desfacut satelitul de comanda si am constatat ca e un spatiu f.ingust acolo si nu e loc prea mult sa bagi "butoanele" alea acolo. Am vazut la tine in poza ca ai folosit un buton deja existent, dar nu imi dau seama cum ai facut acest lucru fara sa afectezi restul montajului.
2) Dupa ce am dat jos scoica volanului tot nu se vedea vreo mufa(in afara de ce de la satelitul de comanda). Am mai dat jos si o parte de plastic cu polistiren pentru a ajunge sa vad mai multe mufe printre care si cea indicata de tine dar nu sunt prea convins ca aia e mufa care duce printre altele la airbag si la claxon deoarece cand am scos mufa claxonul inca mai functiona. Esti sigur ca aceea e mufa, cea pe doua randuri?
3)Crezi ca ar merge si cu rezistente de 100, 300, 820 ca nu am gasit de 270 si de 900?

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post 14 Oct 2006, 09:28
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- un sfat care mi se pare si o solutie eleganta si anume achizitionarea unei manete de tempomat de la o alta marca de masina, practic comenzile sunt aceleasi, ramane ca fiecare sa o monteze acolo unde crede ca i este la indemana... in plus se pot lua de pe masini avariate de la dezmembrari... atasez si o poza, provine de vw T4 multivan...

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post 14 Oct 2006, 15:25
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Claxonul e pe circuit separat de cruise/airbag .. de aceea functioneaza cu mufa aia scoasa.

Cat despre cum pozitionez eu butoanele in satelit, am sa fac niste poze la urmatorul smile.gif ... apropos, asta e o provocare pentru mine ca omul vrea sa nu ii remapez nici un buton .. deci trebuie sa adaug 4 microswitchuri.


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post 14 Oct 2006, 19:08
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Am terminat si eu jucaria. E al dracu de migaloasa munca. Vedeti pozele.
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Stie careva codul kitului volan cu tempomat?


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Setul de intrerupatoare de pe volan 8200218170 doar 90 Euro/315RON smile.gif .

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post 16 Oct 2006, 15:49
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si pretul contactorului turnant ?
si airbag care este decupat?
acestea cat or mai costa oare?


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Parca s-au mai discutat aspectele astea acum vreun an si ceva...


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Ca idee asupra fiabilitatii: excursie de 7k km, intors in tara, si pot spune ca dracia merge de nota 10+. Cheers.


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Ok. Deci pana la urma care sunt toate componentele pt lim/reg de viteza de care este nevoie si codul lor pentru a fi mai usor pentru cei ce vor sa-si comande si sa nu mai piarda timpul cu furnizorii de piese pana cauta componentele?


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post 20 Oct 2006, 11:49
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toate piesele costa cam 1000 de euro (acum cateva minute am verificat):
1 airbag
2 butoane de pe airbag
3 contactor turnant
4 fatada pupitru
5 obturator
6 butoane activare cruise/tempomat


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post 20 Oct 2006, 16:24
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revin cu o precizare:
airbag se comanda in functie de tapiteria masinii si pretul variaza f tare


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Pot sa intreb de ce depinde de tapiseria masinii?


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Cred ca se refera la culoarea capacului volanului in care e bagat airbagul.Daca e pe bej probabil e mai scump decat daca e pe negru.

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toate piesele costa cam 1000 de euro (acum cateva minute am verificat):
1 airbag
2 butoane de pe airbag
3 contactor turnant
4 fatada pupitru
5 obturator
6 butoane activare cruise/tempomat
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Presupun ca nu toate acestea trebuiesc pentru cei care au deja mufa aceea alba in bord ci doar 1,2,3,6 !


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Ma pregatesc si eu pentru instalat Tempomat... am comandat fatada pupitru la Euromotor BV pret 15€ + TVA; livrare 2 saptamani!! aviz amatorilor.


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cum arata mai exact fatada asta pupitru?pune si tu o poza sau da un link te rog
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fatada fara regulator/limitator de viteza (RLV) si fara ASR
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fatada cu RLV si fara ASR
1. fatada pupitru - (4) in lista de mai sus, cod 82 00 079 020 pret ~ 16 Euro
2. buton CDA (comutator regulator/limitator) - (6) idem, cod 82 00 002 447 pret ~ 13 Euro +TVA
3. obturator (capacel orb - pt. astupat gaura), daca e nevoie, cod 82 00 193 673 pret ~ 3.5 Euro +TVA
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Masinile cu ASR au deja fatada asta, cu capac pe pozitia 2 si intrerupatorul ASR pe pozitia 3, asa ca n-au nevoie decat de butonul CDA (comutatorul R/L) pe pozitia 2.


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post 20 Oct 2006, 20:54
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revin si cu preturile estrimative ale pieselor:
1 airbag ~ 500 euro
2 butoane airbag ~ 100 euro
3 contactor turnant ~ 350 euro
4 fatada pupitru ~ 18 euro
5 obturator ~ 5 euro
6 buton activare ~ 22 euro

preturile sunt cu tva cu f mici variatii
pt posesorii de auto care au esp nu mai este nevoie de reperele 4 si 5
in rest trebuiesc toate reperele.
nu m-ar mira ca la unele auto sa fie nevoie si de schimbarea pedalei de acceleratie care costa si ea in jur de 350 euro


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