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Alsacia - Departamentele Haut-Rhin si Bas-Rhin, Cateva vorbe si mai multe poze

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post 31 Jul 2024, 15:47
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QUOTE(gibonu @ 29 Jul 2024, 23:39)


Modalitate de parcare in periferia Baselului.

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Probbail pentru a descuraja viteza in parcare. Era in zona rezidentiala?
Viteza mare=zgomot mare, poluare, praf, nu doar riscuri pentru cei ce se joaca/trec pe acolo.
Un model bun de urmat zic eu!


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post 1 Aug 2024, 22:28
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@nasty
Ma simt extraordinar de bine stiind ca in Buucresti exista multe piste in stadiul SF. Adica Science Fiction in cazul asta.

@medelin
Nu probabil, ci sigur din tot ce ai enumerat.
Insa principalul motiv pentru care exista astfel de parcari este sa descurajeze mersul cu masina.

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Duminica, 09.06.2024 - Partea a VIII-a
Mulhouse - Saint Louis [cu trenul] - Basel [CH] - Weil am Rhein [D] - Kembs [F] - Mulhouse
52 km

Bariera pentru masini, cale libera pentru biciclete, putin in amonte de ecluza de la Kembs care se vede pe fundal.

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Un vas care mergea spre aval astepta ecluzarea

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si diferenta de nivel pe care trebuia sa o coboare.

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Ecluza vazuta din aval.

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Hidrocentala de la Kembs, 160 MW putere instalata.

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Deversarea [daca asa se numeste locul pe unde iese apa dupa ce trece prin turbine].

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Hidrocentrala a fost construita in perioda 1928 - 1932.

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Vedere putin din aval.

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Dupa ce am trecut de hidrocentrala, am mers pana la Kembs de-a lungul canalului Huningue.

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O nutrie [spre sa nu fi gresit animalul] care nu a parut deloc deranjata de prezenta noastra pe mal.

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Autostrada A35 in apropiere de Mulhouse.

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Si Eurovelo 6.

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La Strasbourg ati ajuns?


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QUOTE(gibonu @ 10 Jul 2024, 00:51)
@b06fcn

Traseul a fost Mulhouse - Basel - Wiel am Rhein - cimitirul militar romanesc de langa Soultzmatt - Colmar - Strasbourg - Haguenau - Wissembourg, parcurs partiala cu bicicleta, partial cu trenul.


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Da, am fost si la Strasbourg, de doua ori. Detalii in povestea turei, ultimele doua zile.

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Luni, 10.06.2024
Mulhouse
15 km

Peste noapte a plouat, asa ca somnul in cort a fost excelent acompaniat de ploaia care se auzea pe cort.

La micul dejun am incercat croasantii comanati la receptia campingului cu o zi inainte, 1,50 Euro bucata, comparativ cu [parca] 1,10 Euro la supermarket.

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Teapa totala, pareau a fi croasantii ramasi nevanduti la magazin din ziua precedenta.

Raul ILL, vedere spre aval.

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Probabil cele mai importante doua muzee din Mulhouse.

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Destinatia zilei.

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20 Euro biletul, combinat cu biletul pentru Electopolis [Muzeul Electricitatii], bilet valabil 30 de zile pentru intrarea [unica] la celalat muzeu.

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Automotor electric [alpin] din anul 1901.

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Interiorul.

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post 6 Aug 2024, 07:05
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QUOTE(gibonu @ 4 Aug 2024, 22:11)


La micul dejun am incercat croasantii comanati la receptia campingului cu o zi inainte, 1,50 Euro bucata, comparativ cu [parca] 1,10 Euro la supermarket.

Teapa totala, pareau a fi croasantii ramasi nevanduti la magazin din ziua precedenta.



Nu i-ai màncat ca francezii, se moaie direct în ceașca cu cafea cu lapte:


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@nasty
Nu, nu-i pe gustul meu croisantul scufundat in cafea, cu sa fara lapte.

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Luni, 10.06.2024 - Partea a II-a
Mulhouse
15 km

Plug de zapada din anul 1908.

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Daca nu ma insel, pare ca lamele au geometrie variabila, adica isi pot modifica pozitia in functie de cantitatea de zapada pe care trebuie sa o inghita.

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Produs la uzinele Cooke [Cooke Locomotive and Machine Works] din Paterson, New Jersey, care faceau parte [incepand cu anul 1901] din grupul American Locomotive Company [ALCO].

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Actionarea rotorului.

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Daca am inteles bine, plugul de zapada a fost folosit de catre SNCF pana in anul 1973.

Un plug de zapada similar, fabricat tot de catre uzinele Cooke si livrat catre Caile Ferate Romane in 1897 [am scris bine anul] exista si in RO, abandonat langa gara Fetesti. Cam asa arata in octombrie 2017.

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Revenind la Cite du Train, o locomotiva rasturnata de catre Rezistenta Franceza in timpul WW2.

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Un fel de ciclo-drezina.

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Reclama la Romania din metroul din Paris, probabil din anii '70.

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Romania - taramul armoniei. Plaje aurite la Mare Neagra, Delta Dunarii, Manastirile din Bucovina si [pe asta n-am inteles-o] Cu masina ... benzina gratuit.

Tot din metrou Interzis fumatul si scuipatul.

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Gusturi și gusturi!
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@nasty
Exact, gusturile difera.

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Luni, 10.06.2024 - Partea a III-a
Mulhouse
15 km

Cum lucreaza aburul?

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Daca am inteles bine, melcul [sigur nu asta este denumirea corecta] pentru transportul carbunilor intre tender si zona de langa cazan de unde era preluat cu lopata.

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Plan inclinat, in care probabil sunt doi melci uniti print-o cruce cardanica.

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Apoi carbunii ajungeau pe o grila

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numita "grila scuturatoare".

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Daca poate cineva sa ofera mai multe detalii, il rog sa nu ezite.

Schema functionarii unei locomotive cu abur.

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Hudson 232. Vad ca formula rotilor este identica cu cea folosita de CFR [2 roti mici, 3 roti mari, 2 roti mici]. Sau, si mai simplu oo OOO oo.

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retrasa in 1961.

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Cismeau care alimenta cu apa locomotivele cu abur.

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Mai exista si prin garile din RO astfel de cismele, din pacate intr-o stare de semi paragina.

Vagon de calatori etajat

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retras in anul 1946.

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Consolidation, fabricata la Glasgow

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retrasa din circulatie abia in anul 1975.

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Si vinul se transporta cu trenul [Herault este departamentul in care se afla Montpelier].

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Luni, 10.06.2024 - Partea a IV-a
Mulhouse
15 km

Automotorul Bugatti.

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Vazut de sus.

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Interiorul.

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Cabina mecanicului era undeva pe la jumatatea lungimii automotorului.

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Automotor Renault, care parca seamana putin cu Malaxele de la noi.

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In serviciul pana in anii '70, comparativ cu Malaxele noastre care mai circula si azi.

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Spre finalul erei aburului, o locomotiva Baldwin la care apa se incalzea cu pacura, nu cu carbuni.

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Luni, 10.06.2024 - Partea a V-a
Mulhouse
15 km

Clasa SNCF CC 7100, 58 de bucati, fabricata de Alstom in perioda 1952 - 1955, cu 6 osii si 4680 CP.

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Plus recordul mondial de viteza in 1955, cu "decat" 331 km/h.

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Ca fapt divers, noi in RO am montat pe 27.12.1960 primul stalp de electrificare in gara Predeal.

Clasa SNCF CC 14000.

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Si macheta locomotivei, pe locomotiva originala.

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Vagon pentru trasnportul fontei lichide, la temperatura de 1300 grade celsius.

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Clasa SNCF CC 6500.

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Aquitaine [Aquitania] de pe botul locomotivei se refera la trenul expres cu acelasi nume care a facut legatura in Paris si Bordeaux din 1971 pana pe la inceputul anilor '90.

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Luni, 10.06.2024 - Partea a VI-a
Mulhouse
15 km

Pare ca Cite du Train este cel mai mare muzeu feroviar din Europa. Nu garantez.

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Diverse modele de TGV

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si postul de conducere.

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Macara manuala.

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Macaraua rutiera Griffet, pentru incarcat / descarcat vagoane de marfa la nivelul anilor '60.

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Din pozitia scaunului, a coloanei volanului, a stergatoarele de parbriz si a oglinzilor, inteleg ca ca sensul de mers inainte al macaralei era practic cu spatele fata de pozitia ei initiala. Adica macaragiul privea inainte pe sub bratul macaralei.

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TGV-ul care a stabilit recordul de viteza de 515,30 km / h in 18.05.1990

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si unul dintre sistemele de franare ale TGV-ului.

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post 20 Aug 2024, 07:16
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O fi avut placute de frana Carbon Lorraine?


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@einstein1984

Nu stiu.

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Luni, 10.06.2024 - Partea a VII-a
Mulhouse
15 km

Intre Cite du Train si centrul orasului ne-am oprit la un Lidl pentru a lua cate ceva pentru micul dejun.

Biserica romano catolica Sfantul Stefan.

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Interiorul.

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Altarul.

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Orga.

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Si cutia in care se puneau banii pentru lumanari.

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Monumentul broastei.

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A urmat intalnirea cu un coleg de pe alt forum. Omul, plin de bune intentii ne-a dus intr-o carciuma in care se servea o mancare specific alsaciana, insa nu avea de unde sa stie ca in ziua de luni bucataria carciumii era inchisa.

Asa ca dintre singurele mancaruri disponibile am ales un fel de carnat.

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Cutitul din poza era mai mult de decor, insa nicio problema, il aveam la mine pe Victoras [briceagul Victor Inox pe care il folosesc de 25 de ani].

Carnatul nu mergea mancat fara paine, insa chelnerul s-a scuzat si ne-a spus ca mai are doar cateva felii, oricum insuficiente pentru 4 insi.

Nu mai stiu care dintre noi a intrebat daca putem folosi painea noasta, chelnerul a percutat imediat afirmativ, asa ca felul 2 a fost un salam cu castraveti murati [paine era de la noi, noroc ca am trecut pe la Lidl cu putin timp inainte].

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La noi "torpilele" , asa erau denumite la Galati, erau folosite doar la furnalul 6. La celelalte furnale fonta era scursa/turnata in "oale" cu care era dusa la otelarie.


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@buzasparta
Si cum era transportata in oale la otelatie [in afara de furnalul nr. 6]?

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Marti, 11.06.2024
Mulhouse
13 km

Rosiile cherry luate de la Lidl cu o zi inainte. Mi-a placut cutia de carton cerat, gandita ca sa poti spala rosiile direct in cutie.

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Inainte de a pleca din camping doamna a gasit langa corturi un pui de pasare care probabil cazuse din cuib.

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Nestiind ce sa facem cu acel pui, am mers la receptia campigului ca sa intreb. Acolo, frantuzoaica de la receptie a percutat imediat, a venit la corturile noastre, a luat puiul intr-un servetel si ne-a spus ca va suna la protectia animalelor ca sa vina sa preia pasarea. Nu stiu ce specie de pasare era, insa nu era deloc speriata de prezenta oamenilor.

Piata acoperita, deschisa doar marti, joi si sambata.

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Interiorul.

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Carne halal

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inclusiv de iepure.

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Nu ma asteptam sa gasesc la Mulhouse maslinele pe care le-am luat din peninsula Mani in septembrie 2022.

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Diverse tipuri de branza.

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Un fel de salam din carne de pasare, foarte bun.

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Rubarba.

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Avem "oo"

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inclusiv bio.

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Burta de vita.

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Branza de capra.

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post 23 Aug 2024, 06:39
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Și la noi oul bio e cam spre 2 lei!
Se egalizeazã prețurile în UE!

Merguez sunt niște cârnați arãbești! I-am màncat în cuscus.
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La galati nu stiu cum era, dar la bucuresti oala de metal lichid era transportata cu podul rulant, iar la unul din capetele halei era o linie de tren transversala cu un vagon platforma miscat de un troliu. Podul rulant punea oala pe vagon, troliul il tragea in lateral si era preluat de alt pod rulant paralel cu primul. LA Faur insa nu era nevoie sa iasa lichidul din hala, era dus doar de la cuptor la forma.


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La celelalte furnale erau folosite "oale" in care erau scurse zgura si fonta. Fonta mergea catre otelarie si era turnata in convertizoare iar zgura pleca spre zona de granulare intai si apoi spre o zona unde se "batea" oala pentru a se desprinde ce mai ramanea dupa granulare, apoi era varuita si inapoi la furnal pentru alt ciclu de umplere. Partea de fonta a furnalului fiind mai inghesuita folosea locomotive de 700, pe partea de zgura fiind si trenul mai lung se foloseau cele de 1250 cp.

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Ca veni vorba si de uzina si de produsele ei (LDHurile de 700cp) , LMA Uzina 23 august!


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@nasty
Mersi. Habar n-aveam ca Merguez sunt carnati. Am crezut ca era numele macelariei din piata.

@einstein1984 & buzasparta
Multumesc pentru explicatii.

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Muzeul electricitatii.

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Bicicletele le-am lasat in parcarea de la Cite du Train care era peste drum.

Ce credeau anticii despre fulgere.

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Baterie din alte timpuri.

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Colectie de becuri.

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Electrocasnice din anii '50 - '60.

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Pick-up Philips.

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Televizor Teleavia din 1957.

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Spotul publicitar, pe print.

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Si "datele tehnice" vazute mai de aproape.

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Un fel de stramos al lui Play Station.

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Pasionati de elth!


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Superb designul panoramicului

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! Quel design extraordinaire et futuriste nous a dessiné Philippe Charbonneaux (peut-être un peu aidé par l’italien Flamino Bertoni ?) avec ce poste de télévision monté sur des pieds en bois en X et sur roulettes, et doté d’une table intégrée en métal qui contient les 2 haut-parleurs, les boutons de sons et de réglages. L’écran totalement orientable de bas en haut et de gauche à droite est contenu dans un élégant caisson ovoïde bicolore ivoire et aubergine souligné de laiton. Certains l’ont comparé à un extraterrestre du film La guerre des mondes.

Le très photogénique et mythique appareil a figuré dans plusieurs films, dont « La femme mariée » de J.L Godard dans lequel Macha Méril s’exclame : « la technique de l’aviation au service de la télévision » ! Il faut savoir que le poste a été fabriqué dans l’usine Téléavia Sud Aviation située près de l’aéroport de Château-Bougon dans la région nantaise.

Il a pris place au Centre Georges Pompidou dans la Collection d’art moderne.


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@nasty
"elth" = ???

@einstein1984
Foarte tare. Se poate si sursa? Mersi.

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Marti, 11.06.2024 - Partea a III-a
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Cel mai tare exponat din muzeu este Marea Masina Sulzer BBC.

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Adica o masinarile de 170 de tone, care imbina un motor cu abur construit la Winthertur [Elvetia] de Sulzer si un alternator construit la Mannheim [Germania] de Brown-Boveri and Co.

Azi actionata electric, la o turatie de patru ori mai mica compartativ cu cea din 1901.

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Masinaria a produs curent electric din abur in perioda 1901 - 1953 pentru filatura D.M.C. (Dolfus, Mieg and Co.) din Mulhouse. A fost salvata de la distrugere in anii '80, demontata si remontat un muzeu.

Fabricantul alternatorului

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si cel am masinii cu abur.

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Elvetienii de la Sulzer sunt aceiasi care au avut o implicare destul de mare in productia locomotivelor diesel electrice Electroputere LDE 2100 / CFR 060-DA.

Marea masina este amplasata intr-un fel de amfiteatru.

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Cheile cu care se lucra la masina.

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In final nu am reusit sa inteleg de ce francezii sunt idioti si tin minunatia asta de masinarie in semi-intuneric asfel incat nu prea poti face poze.

Mai multe detalii de Marea Masina: https://www.musee-electropolis.fr/en/electr...bc-machine-1901


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"un fel de stramos al lui play station"
era altceva:) un atari 2600(a doua jumatate a anilor '70, la noi au fost clone dupa revolutie cu jocuri built-in numite "rambo" fata de atari care avea "casete", jocurile fiind 2d... 20 de ani mai tarziu apare sony ps1 si se trece la jocuri 3d si cd-uri
https://jocuridincopilarie.ro/rambo-consola...i-pe-televizor/

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Erau si la noi jocuri cu casete, nu doar rambo. Clone, desigur dar puteai cumpara casete

@Gibonu, sursa e aici https://unikvintage64.com/product/rare-post...ic-111-de-1957/
Locomotivele clasa 60 aveau motoare diesel sulzer, tractiune electrica Brown, Boverini &Cie si cutie si boghie SLM.

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erau mulți imigranți prin Strasbourg?
Cã în muzee desigur cã niciunul!

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@ sorin1983
Mersi pentru completare.

@einstein1984
Mersi pentru link. SLM = ???

@nasty
Erau ceva imigranti in Strasbourg, insa nu mi s-au parut a fi prea multi.

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Mulhouse
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Puterea hidro-electrica a Rinului

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cu 1400 MW putere instalata si trafic fluvial gratuit prin ecluze.

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Rotorul unei turbine actionate cu abur

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si modul in care functioneaza.

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Probabil rotorul unei turbine de termocentrala.

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Se intampla sa stie cineva din ce motiv sunt mai putine pale in partea de interior a rotorului?


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Swiss Locomotive and Machine Works (German Schweizerische Lokomotiv- und Maschinenfabrik; French Société Suisse pour la Construction de Locomotives et de Machines; or for both, SLM) was a railway equipment manufacturer based in Winterthur in Switzerland. Much of the world's mountain railway equipment was constructed by the company.


Etajele mai mici in diametru, cele dinspre centru sunt de inalta presiune, cele dinspre capete sunt de joasa presiune si deci au nevoie de suprafata mai mare a paleleor ca sa fie miscate de abur (deci diametru si nr de pale mai mare).

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Cei de la energeticã învațã în amãnunțime despre turbine.
Cursurile erau îmbunãtãțite dupã tata lor care a fost Aurel Stodola, un slovac de origine vlahã de pe làngã munții Tatra.
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Cand aud de profesor universitar si incepe cu Aurel S.... ma ia cu nervi. Ala de zici tu poate o fi fost si util omenirii.


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@einstein1984
Mersi pentru SLM si explicatia referitor la turbina.

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Marti, 11.06.2024 - Partea a V-a
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Prin Mulhouse.

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Moped Peugeot 104 din anii '70, 2 timpi, 49 cmc.

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Chipsuri bretone, usor date cu unt.

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Este treaba serioasa cu cipsurile astea, se stie si de unde provin cartofii, adica din Loudeac, departamentul Cotes d'Armor [22].

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De asemenea, merita observata inscriptia in araba referitor la termenul de valabilitate a cipsurilor. Cealalta inscripie cred ca este in dialectul breton.

Placutz bilingv, atat la numele strazilor, in franceza si in dialectul alsacian

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cat si la indicatoarele turistice, in franceza si germana. A se observa si indicarea timpilor de mers, seprat pentru pietoni si biciclisti.

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Denumiri diferite [Piata Unirii in franceza si Piata Primariei in germana]

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Primaria.

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Prima unire a orasului cu Franta a fost in 1798.

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Si eliberarea din 1944.

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